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NordWest	Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 10:41 AM EST A place to put your reviews and discuss them and the stories Warning: Spoilers ahead! Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
NordWest	1. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 10:44 AM EST Stormbringer951, "Memories of a Future War" (up to chapter 1) A story trying to fit with the shows story line and characters by explaining more the background. It is focusing on Derek Reese and his view on the world of war against Skynet.The first chapter is more a story background description then actual story development. I think that the character outline for Derek Reese is fitting and explains how he might have thought about events in the show and especially about how John treats his cyborg companion.I enjoyed reading the first chapter and hope that the story gets into certain events in the upcoming chapters. (Also the other Stormbringer951 stories are shot but good.) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
kaotic	2. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 10:46 AM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 10:57 AM EST Just finished the new chapter to Rampancy, about 10 minutes ago. I thought it was the best chapter yet. Nordwest, great idea for a thread. :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
trigger_happy14	3. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 1:25 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 1:25 PM EST Hey ya'll! I wrote this awhile back and I was wondering what you guys think of it. I posted it on the Red Wiki once, but i'm still curious to see what some people think of it. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5076403/1/Canceled It's a humorous fic, just something I wrote in a furious frenzy after T:SCC was canceled... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bryan011	4. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 1:28 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 1:28 PM EST "Judge the Sky" by Swordsman422 http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5230614/1/ It is probably one of the most in-depth fan fictions in its detail of the military, particularly US Naval aviation. Some of the technical bits and pieces gets a little much sometimes (like the details on helmets or something like that) but the story is very interesting. It's about an I-950 who has been a part of the US Navy for 10 to 15 years, is an F-18 pilot, and is planning on shooting down a Russian bomber which will increase US-Russian tensions and lead to Skynet being deployed by the US. Cameron and John see the pilot by accident and Cameron has to kiss John to keep the I-950 from seeing John. It's not a "Jameron" story and there isn't any more than what we saw in the show, but there are some moments which are interesting. There are some really good scenes with Cameron and her own thoughts, which are interesting. It's very well thought out. Unfortunately there hasn't been an update in two months, but hopefully there will be soon. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
thecrusadingknight	5. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 1:29 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 1:29 PM EST "Hey ya'll! I wrote this awhile back and I was wondering what you guys think of it. I posted it on the Red Wiki once, but i'm still curious to see what some people think of it. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5076403/1/Canceled It's a humorous fic, just something I wrote in a furious frenzy after T:SCC was canceled... " I remember that and found it funny. Still waiting for you to write one where it's the gamers who attack. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
NordWest	6. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 1:30 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 1:30 PM EST "Just finished the new chapter to Rampancy, about 10 minutes ago. I thought it was the best chapter yet. " Some time ago I checked Rampancy. My problem with the story is the too much humanized Cameron. And kaotic I thought that we should also have a common thread on fan fictions. We have already several threads on different special stories and I like this for the bigger ones. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
trigger_happy14	7. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 1:30 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 1:30 PM EST "I remember that and found it funny. Still waiting for you to write one where it's the gamers who attack." lol! I so would, but no one would understand it except... well the gamers. :P One day... maybe... ^^ Post reply Do you find this valuable?
NordWest	8. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 5:03 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 5:03 PM EST Now to current favorite story: Century by King Steve (in progress, up to chapter 9): http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5065966/1/Century Century belongs to the the story arc starting with "Judgement's Dawn" and finished with "Liberation Day" and is placed between these two. I think that this story is the strongest part. John is a Sknet prisoner in the Century work camp and the highly damaged Cameron is separated from him and tries desperately to find him again. On her journey through the Skynet controlled country Cameron encounters various people and has to deal with wrong hope and betrayal by humans. Camerons behavior can be described as a conflict between her nature as a Skynet killing machine and empathy. But she is not humanize. She is in character as a robot. The same as Cameron also John has to deal with other people around him in the work camp. What makes the story so great is that while the love between John and Cameron is the background of all their actions both of them still get a social life outside of their relationship. Also all the foreign new characters in this social life are not just throw away characters. They are reasonable described and as a reader you can understand their behavior. With the high school plot line of the TSCC show we got something similar in s1 but almost nothing like this in s2. There was Riley for John, but she is just a part of Jameron as an antagonist to this relationship. There were Bedell for John and the cancer guy for Cameron but these were just throw away characters of the week. They did nothing with John and Cameron. What also makes the story great is its intensity. It is basically a holocaust story and Terminator is nothing but a holocaust story. The whole work camp reminds us readers of some Nazi work camp. You just have to replace humans with Jews during WW2. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Enigma6482	9. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 5:43 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 5:43 PM EST Wow, nobody has mentioned Talli's "I'll Always Find You." From what I've read so far, I think this is the BEST interpretation of what a TSCC Season 3 would have been. While I'm sure it's not 100% dead on (nobodies would be, unless they were a writer for the show) I think she definitely hits several nails on the head as to where JF and other would have brought the story. Overall Talli does a phenomenal job with how she created her characters and story plot. If I'm critiquing it, I guess I have to give some constructive criticism. I was slightly disappointed with the random appearance of a TDE in the future that CW and the rest were able to use. Talli has stated that she does not like writing "future" stories (and this may be the reason for this particular occurrence); but overall she does a great job (both in future and present) except for this one minor detail and I EASILY brushed it off b/c the story was so good (I feel kinda guilty even saying anything like that about this fan fic…lol). There are several Jameron moments in the story; but they are all tastefully done and aren't in your face and are spaced out enough that you really do appreciate them when they do come. I've noticed a very select few times where Cameron has said something a little to "girlish"; but those moments are few and far between (and easily forgotten due to how good the story is). Overall Talli does a fantastic job in keeping with who the characters are and how they would have reacted in all situations. I HIGHLY recommend this fan fic to anyone that wants to read a season 3 fan fic. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
NordWest	10. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 6:23 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 6:23 PM EST this is not a statement on the quality on Talli's story: I am sure that this story is very far away from what would have been s3 - both regarding the characters and the story arc. What is the point of going into the future in this story? Why have the writers paid so much in s2 to get into the future? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Enigma6482	11. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 6:57 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 6:57 PM EST "this is not a statement on the quality on Talli's story: I am sure that this story is very far away from what would have been s3 - both regarding the characters and the story arc. What is the point of going into the future in this story? Why have the writers paid so much in s2 to get into the future? " Realistically TSCC would not have stayed in the future for very long (episode wise). The cost of making even a full season in the future would have been astronomically and unless TSCC was getting “X-files/Friends” type of numbers, Fox would never have gone for it. Now the "amount" of time John spent in the future is highly debatable (could have been months to years). But I doubt there would have been more than 6 episodes that stayed in the future when it was all said and done. Either that or you would have had many, many episodes taking place in tunnels. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
NordWest	12. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 7:02 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 7:02 PM EST Another of the big post BtR projects is River2027's "Born to Fight" http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4988947/1/Born_to_Fight It is currently at a similar stage as what we got with Enigma's story: Kyle is just sent back. But all around this event is quite different. It is following "Born to run". John tries to fit in the post JD world and fights Skynet together with Kyle and Derek. He has support both by John Henry and Weaver. For a long time Cameron is missing. John gets her conscious on a special chip while John Henry uses her old chip. The idea to bring back Cameron follows the repeating history concept: Derek as well as Allison is captured again and both of them are tortured by Cameron. Unfortunately Allison is killed once more by Cameron. All this takes a long time and Cameron isn't back until chapter 24. Until then Allison proves to be a great character which adds a lot of drama to the story. John understands that history repeats and that he let it repeat and betrays Allison by doing so. Unfortunately his guilt is reduced too easily by Allison finally understanding and forgiving him. John however has never told her the whole truth of Cameron. Skynet Cameron who kills Allison is trying again to kill John Connor but is (too fast) convinced by John Henry not to do so. She provides the body and chip to bring back old Cameron. So she scarifies herself for another version of herself. The story included elements on all terminator movies. Some story lines may not be plausible and it is strange to have young John in a leading position of the Resistance (the story deals with this, though), but the writing is entertaining and there is a lot of good drama. It starts after"Born to run" but it definitely does not try to go where s3 would have gone. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
NordWest	13. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 7:08 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 7:08 PM EST "Realistically TSCC would not have stayed in the future for very long (episode wise). The cost of making even a full season in the future would have been astronomically and unless TSCC was getting “X-files/Friends” type of numbers, Fox would never have gone for it. Now the "amount" of time John spent in the future is highly debatable (could have been months to years). But I doubt there would have been more than 6 episodes that stayed in the future when it was all said and done. Either that or you would have had many, many episodes taking place in tunnels. " You might be right with all this. But what was the future story worth? Was it just to get Kyle back? I miss the slap into John's face. It is all too easy for him. We have had two seasons already with John being the center of the universe for all characters around him. In BtR John is left in a world where he is just a random boy. I think that this is the important idea behind s3. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bryan011	14. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 7:31 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 7:31 PM EST "Another of the big post BtR projects is River2027's "Born to Fight" http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4988947/1/Born_to_Fight It is currently at a similar stage as what we got with Enigma's story: Kyle is just sent back. But all around this event is quite different. (word limit)" I like this story a lot. I haven't read the last few weeks though (I've got a lot of stories to catch up on) and I only have two constructive criticisms and one small one: one, you touched on, is having John be the general so quickly. The second is that the scale seems like the war is being fought only in LA. There are small groups of fighters and I don't get the impression they could really ever win- there's a lack of the T1/T2 feel that there is an army of resistance rather than a small band. There's some radio messages but nothing else so we don't see the war outside LA. The small criticism is that, IIRC, Danny Dyson built plasma weapons for the resistance using 2010 to 2012ish technology yet Skynet does not have this technology yet. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
m1919	15. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 7:37 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 7:40 PM EST "I like this story a lot. I haven't read the last few weeks though (I've got a lot of stories to catch up on) and I only have two constructive criticisms and one small one: one, you touched on, is having John be the general so quickly. The second is that the scale seems like the war is being fought only in LA. There are small groups of fighters and I don't get the impression they could really ever win- there's a lack of the T1/T2 feel that there is an army of resistance rather than a small band. There's some radio messages but nothing else so we don't see the war outside LA. The small criticism is that, IIRC, Danny Dyson built plasma weapons for the resistance using 2010 to 2012ish technology yet Skynet does not have this technology yet." I enjoyed this story up until I found out that Skynet was using grays to conduct its research and development programs. I found that a more glaring issue than the small scale feel of the war, or John's rapid rise to power, which I also find a bit hard to believe, but ignored. I enjoyed River's Fair is Foul greatly though. Skynet using grays to conduct its R&D programs? :/ Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bryan011	16. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 7:48 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 7:48 PM EST "I enjoyed this story up until I found out that Skynet was using grays to conduct its research and development programs. I found that a more glaring issue than the small scale feel of the war, or John's rapid rise to power, which I also find a bit hard to believe, but ignored. I enjoyed River's Fair is Foul greatly though. Skynet using grays to conduct its R&D programs? :/" What kind of research programs? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
m1919	17. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 7:50 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 8:03 PM EST "What kind of research programs? " The development of the T1000, and probably previous models of terminator as well as weapons and all other R&D programs, I can assume. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Enigma6482	18. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 8:03 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 8:03 PM EST "You might be right with all this. But what was the future story worth? Was it just to get Kyle back? I miss the slap into John's face. It is all too easy for him. We have had two seasons already with John being the center of the universe for all characters around him. In BtR John is left in a world where he is just a random boy. I think that this is the important idea behind s3. " I think Talli nailed it with her idea on that. I think when John retured to the present he would have done so at the very least with Derek (in order to keep BAG around) and probably with Kyle also. This would allow Sarah the chance to have a romance that she could "trust" and who knows where the story would have gone from there. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bryan011	19. RE: Fanfiction reviews and discussion Nov 8 2009, 8:38 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 8:38 PM EST "The development of the T1000, and probably previous models of terminator as well as weapons and all other R&D programs, I can assume." Oh... I don't see that as a big deal if its explained certain ways. What chapter did they show up in? I think I am on chapter 25, so a few behind. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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