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JMHthe3rd |
JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 16 2009, 4:21 AM EST
Just letting you know I'm done with chapter five of "Mother is the Name for God." I still need to proofread, revise, and have it beta-read, but with a little luck it'll be posted either Monday or Tuesday.It's fairly short, only about about 6,425 words. Do you find this valuable?
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kingsteve |
1. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 16 2009, 5:06 AM EST
"Just letting you know I'm done with chapter five of "Mother is the Name for God." I still need to proofread, revise, and have it beta-read, but with a little luck it'll be posted either Monday or Tuesday.Looking forward to it. That's not too short at all. Between 5000 and 7000 words is perfect for a chapter IMO. I try to make my chapters around that kinda size, anyway. Do you find this valuable? |
kaotic |
2. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 16 2009, 10:10 AM EST
"Looking forward to it.This. Do you find this valuable? |
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ScotWithOne_t |
4. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 16 2009, 1:57 PM EST
But srsly... 6,000 words isn't short. That's 20-25 pages in a novel. The novels I've been reading lately have chapters from 5-15 pages only. Sometimes your chapters have scene changes that could very well be chapter breaks... especially when the scene change switches to all different characters in a different time or place. It doesn't really make any difference when reading a fanfic on the computer; just something I've noticed between different authors. I'm currently reading a new urban-fantasy genre novel that rarely has a scene change within the chapter. As a result, each chapter is 10 pages on average. I wonder if they do this to make a mass-market novel more digestible, and easier to pick up an read for a short period of time. I know that I find myself flipping ahead when I get to the end of a chapter, and thinking... "oh.. only 8 pages for the next chapter... I'll keep going." Whereas, if I look ahead and see that the next chapter is 30 pages, I think.. "eh... I should really just turn off the light and go to sleep." Like I said, I think this might be more of a marketing strategy than a storytelling tool, since sometimes the next chapter directly follows the events of the previous, and could have just been a "line-break" scene change within one bigger chapter. With fanfics, this hardly applies, since we don't see it in pages, but rather just one big wall of text. And I am never reading fanfics in bed... usually sitting at my computer during breaks at work, or in the evenings at home with my laptop on the couch. As usual... I have no freaking point and am just rambling. Do you find this valuable? |
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kingsteve |
5. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 16 2009, 2:08 PM EST
"As usual... I have no freaking point and am just rambling. "Yeah, but you do it so well, hehe Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
6. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 17 2009, 11:23 PM EST
Well, by short, I meant short by my standards. Anyway, I'm done with the proofreading and revising (more or less), now I'm just waiting for by beta. Do you find this valuable? |
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kingsteve |
7. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 18 2009, 3:26 PM EST
"Well, by short, I meant short by my standards.Hope your beta's more reliable than mine, lol. Never replies by email and half the time he's on MSN he doesn't reply when I send him an IM. Anyway, looking forward to your next chapter Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
8. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 20 2009, 2:45 AM EST
"Hope your beta's more reliable than mine, lol. Never replies by email and half the time he's on MSN he doesn't reply when I send him an IM.Usually my beta is reliable, though this time he's evidently not. Was he wished to the cornfield? Did Langoliers eat him? Did he join a monastery? The world may never know. Anyway, I've sent my chapter to another beta. With luck, my chapter should be posted in the next day or so. I'm tempted to go beta-less, but in that lies madness. (Read any of Anne Rice's new stuff to see why you need an editor). Do you find this valuable? |
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kingsteve |
9. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 20 2009, 11:48 AM EST
"Usually my beta is reliable, though this time he's evidently not. Was he wished to the cornfield? Did Langoliers eat him? Did he join a monastery? The world may never know.I've done a few chapters beta-less before. The last two from my fic were done solo, though I obsessively picked over them God only knows how many times before I posted. Beta does help, but not when they take ages. I think I need a new beta but never had any replies from the listed ones on FF.net before. Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
10. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 20 2009, 6:08 PM EST
All right. Here's "Chapter Five: Myron Stark Loves You Too."http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5370634/6/Mother_is_the_Name_for_God As always, feedback is welcome. If you're reading my story, tell me what you think. Do you find this valuable? |
NordWest |
11. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 24 2009, 6:34 PM EST
(cross post with ff.net)Chapter Five: Myron Stark Loves You Too: This is again an example how well John Henry works as an innocent and curious baby AI in s2. He contains some of what was so entertaining of Cameron in s1. I think the idea on how the reprogramming works is very plausible but I still like it more as it is suggested to work in the show. My understanding is that in the show the resistance reprogramming is just something on top of the original programming but it does not change the basic instincts of the machines. Cameron tells us in "Born to Run" that her core is still the same as it was created by Skynet and will always remain as such. Her nature is to be a Skynet terminator and cannot be changed without destroying her. I think that with this concept a terminator character gets a larger variety of possibilities. It is less black and white. Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
12. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 25 2009, 12:24 AM EST
Here's my reply:Thanks for the review. And your right about the core programming always being there. It's the same way in my fic. Cameron may have had her neural structure reworked (basically, the variable of "Skynet" replaced with "John Connor") but remnants of her original programming still lurk in the back of her mind. After all, she tried to kill John in S&D, and also in the prologue chapter of my fic, so we know she has at least a subconscious recollection of her pre-scrubbing existence. Essentially, her prior life (memories and programming) are still "there" on her chip, but repressed because the neural pathways leading to them have been cut off (like they were with Stark). The reason these memories and programming can't be totally destroyed is because they're dispersed throughout her chip and can't be completely erased without causing irreparable damage. It'd be like lobotomizing a human to "wipe" his mind. However, if a machine's reprogramming doesn't "take," then over time the original programming can find a new neural pathway and resurface in the terminator's mind. So, despite the reprogramming of her core directive, deep down Cameron still wants to kill John Connor. Just like in the show. Anyway, I hope that helps. And thanks again for the review. I always appreciate feedback. -JMH Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
13. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 25 2009, 1:05 AM EST
Let me elaborate a bit. Myron Stark has new, rewritten variables for his psychological template (i.e. "Protect: *John Connor*" instead of "Protect: *Skynet*") but the old variables are still there on his chip -- just forgotten and repressed. If Myron Stark ever goes bad, it would be because the old variables have resurfaced (and the new ones didn't "take.") Do you find this valuable? |
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NordWest |
14. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 26 2009, 3:42 PM EST
Thanks for elaborating. it makes sense to me. I have to admit that I get lost sometimes while following fanfictions which are updated over a long period of time.
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Visi0nary |
15. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 27 2009, 12:49 PM EST
"Well, by short, I meant short by my standards.You do have pretty high standards, don't you? Do you find this valuable? |
DeadpooI |
16. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 27 2009, 1:06 PM EST
"You do have pretty high standards, don't you?"The proof is in the pudding. Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
17. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Nov 27 2009, 1:21 PM EST
"You do have pretty high standards, don't you?"Yeah. I'm a perfectionist. At least when it comes to stuff I care about. Of course, now days I'm trying to keep away from the 18,000 (70 pages!) word chapters of ITHOAAM. Those sort of things really should be broken up into smaller chapters. And to answer your email, I heard the same thing. I was told that Wild-Kat on the Red Wiki was overly ban-happy, and I guess it pissed some people off. Deadpool wrote: "The proof is in the pudding. " Thanks. Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
18. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Dec 5 2009, 2:02 AM EST
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Just letting you know, I've started chapter six day. The current title is "Prerequisite for a Soul," though this may change if I come across something I like better. Currently 1057 words into it. I may be done in two or three weeks. Update -- 12/7 -- 2,777 words. But now, I'm going to go watch an episode of MST3K. And eat popcorn. Do you find this valuable? |
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JMHthe3rd |
19. RE: JMHthe3rd's Fan Fiction
Dec 19 2009, 1:31 AM EST
Currently 10,000 words my next update. It'll be broken up into two chapters now:"Chapter Six: A Prerequisite for a Soul" and "Chapter Seven: We'd Like it to Stay that Way" I may be done by Monday, but then of course comes the proofreading and revision and betaing and all that. Do you find this valuable? |
